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On quantum gravity with John C. Gonsowski

On quantum gravity with John C. Gonsowski
On quantum gravity with John C. Gonsowski
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imageJOHN  C.  GONSOWSKI   —

The problem I have with your model is that you effectively have the photon doing the graviton's job of rotations, boosts, and translations. I just can't picture that. My favorite model is from a friend of Ark's but that doesn't mean Ark is into that model any more than yours. I still think Ark's friend giving me a link to Ark's site was the best thing anyone did for me in this lifetime.

                   

WÓJEK  ZIGGY  —

It is an excellent point, John.  I fully agree.  This still needs to be worked out. 

I conjecture magnetic field to be propagation medium, so perhaps it would be a virtual photon that does the job? 

Let's say the above is the weakest part of my hypothesis. The strongest part would be the results from CERN, about 5 years from now. John, assuming antihydrogen would antigravitate at CERN, along what lines would you try to explain it?  

 " I still think Ark's friend giving me a link to Ark's site was the best thing anyone did for me in this lifetime."  

I feel happy for you, John. Whatever works best for you. I am only interested in empirical truth, and not in being right, as opposed to someone else being wrong as compared with me. I consider it a waste of time. 


JOHN  GONSOWSKI   —

If antihydrogen antigravitates, I would tend to think it is somehow traveling in a T-duality exotic spacetime, but I would have no idea how it is doing that. I do think even for Ark's model that a conformal graviton and longitudinal photon are exactly the same degrees of freedom so I do think in general Maxwell's equations effectively mix gravitons and photons but I still kind of picture the photons, gravitons, and graviphotons (virtual photons/vector gravitons) as separate and not really hanging out together in the same places (but obviously we are all picturing things where experiments haven't gone yet). Even for Ark and Laura's channeling on a Ouija board, they know whatever hints they get have to be checked out. We are all seeking truth even when the empirical part has lots of catching up to do. 

       

WÓJEK  ZIGGY   —

For now, graviton is an educated guess, a placeholder to be filled with more hard facts as they hopefully come later. At the moment I take graviton as a general idea, not as an actual quantum particle. I have heard mainstream opinion that should graviton physically exist, it would be far, far beyond our experimental methods of detection. 

I think Maxwell's equations effectively mix gravitons and photons, but I still kind of picture the photons, gravitons, and gravito-photons as separate. [...] the graviton's job of rotations, boosts, and translations.

Good point, again.  If you are not familiar with the Fedorov-Imbert controversy, it is briefly described in the middle of this page : 

The lesson from Fedorov-Imbert controversy is that photon can do more than we were initially led to believe. Perhaps we could think of a "gravito-photon" not as a particle, but rather as a function being performed.

According to my conjecture, gravity is not a fundamental force, but rather it results from a proper combination of the following three flexible factors :

  1. angular momentum 
  2. electric dipole moment 
  3. magnetic moment 

and therefore, there will be no actual quantum particle, like "graviton", and no gravitational field either, but rather instead of such a particle and field, it will be a function of complex magnetic fields. I imagine it to be performed by magnetic vortex tubes, which are well known. Complex magnetic fields are extremely, extremely flexible and capable of performing jaw-dropping tricks : 


Therefore, in response to your valid concern : 

The problem I have with your model is that you effectively have the photon doing the graviton's job of rotations, boosts, and translations.

I would like to reiterate that not only that photon carries a simple angular momentum, but it can also have an orbital angular momentum, and complex magnetic fields are capable of forming magnetic vortex tubes, even on a galactic and intergalactic scale, so all together it might look like a sufficient combination to account for the required rotations, boosts, and translations. To give you some idea of how it could look : 

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There would be no gravitational field with straight (or curved) lines of force, like electric field, and instead of gravitational field lines, we would have toroidal vortex tubes (loops) in magnetic fields, similar to the above, carrying all the momenta and moments.

Of course, these loops are naturally scale-invariant. 

This is the ultimate secret of loop quantum gravity. 

The outcome of Fedorov-Imbert controversy was a big surprise, and therefore beyond what I imagined above as a possible gravity's propagation mechanism, we could still expect to discover something equally surprising.

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